Sunday, March 24, 2013

Electronics: What To GET ... 220 to 110v saga

This is where i spent the most time researching

You probably already know this:

1) India is 220V 50Hz
2) US is 110V 60HZ
3) TV format in INDIA is PAL
4) TV format in the US is NTSC

I got all my electronics from the US and i am using them in INDIA (almost for 2 yrs now). Here are the items i got from the US and using in India

1) TV's
2) Amplifier
3) Home theater (with powered sub woofer)
4) DVD/Bluray player
5) Game consoles (XBOX and WII)
6) Printer
7) Phones
8) Router

First things first: 

1) You will need a STEP DOWN transformer. (220 to 110V)

I suggest get a good one with a voltage regulator built into it. I choose the LITEFUZE brand. I got it from BOMBAY ELECTRONICS. (http://www.litefuze.com/) . My friend got the SIMRAN brand and he is happy with it.

I got the following

  1. LiteFuze LR-3000 W 
  2. LR 1000 W
  3. LR 500 W








I decided on these wattage based on the output of the items i was going to use in India

Example: I choose the 3000 W for the living room because i planned to use the following gadgets in the living room

1) TV - 120 W
2) Amplifier - 300 W
3) Sub Woofer - 150 W
4) DVD Player - 100 W
5) XBOX ~ 100 W

The total is close to 800 W.

 I read somewhere that TV's need an estimated 3 - 4 times the wattage (how i don't know) at start up.

Transformer Efficiency 0.7 = 3000 * .0.7 = 2100 W (net wattage). As you can see 3000 W well covers what i was planning on using in the living room.

****Note: (ENSURE YOU CHANGE MCB IN INDIA)

In my Electrical board (where all the circuit breakers are) the MCB for the living room was rated at  6 AMPS. Since i had a 3000 W transformer the theoretical possibility was 3000 W/220 V = 13.5 AMPS

I used to have this problem, sometimes when i turned on the transformer that line used to trip, i once even managed to trip the entire house 1 time. After discussions with a local electrician i changed the MCB
(miniature circuit board) from 6 AMPS to 16 AMPS.

Since then i have had no problems of tripping.

50 HZ VS 60 HZ:
Lot of people have this question whether 60 to 50 HZ will work or reduce the performance of the device. 

All Electronics (TV,DVD, AMPLIFIER ETC run on DC not AC). Frequency does NOT matter

It matters for motors (Mixie, Grinder), clocks etc

EXTENSION CHORD:

The number of outlets on the transformers will not be enough to power all your electronics, get a 220 V extension chord WITHOUT SURGE PROTECTOR. I got the WONPRO extension chord from BOMBAY ELECTRONICS.

INDIA CABLE PROVIDERS:

Converter free cable providers (i.e no need to PAL to NTSC converters)

1) Videcon D2H:  It does not require a converter box (they use MPEG4 so no need for a converter box) --- On the set-top box use the TV setting 1080 60HZ --- and use HDMI

I use the Videocon D2H without any converter box. They also have a 3D channel in case you are getting a 3D TV.

2) AirTel  (they use MPEG4,  i am guessing you can use it similar to Videocon)

TATA SKY Requires a Converter Box

I got the Orei XD-990 PAL HDMI / Composite to NTSC HDMI 50/60 Hz Multi-System Video Converter - Up to 1080p
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0062BS09O/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I did not have good luck with it. If you ask me not a good buy.

DSL MODEMS:

Most cable providers in India use ADSL2 so bring your existing DSL modem (if you have one). All you will require is a power converter (Rs 200 - 300) to use it in India.

ADSL modem + Router combined are pretty cheap in India (TP Link or D-LINK can cost any where from Rs 1400 - Rs 3000). You can save the hassle of converters etc. (Amazon and Flipkart have tons of modem+router combos)

CELL PHONES:

I got my cell phones from the US and actually had them unlocked in the US itself at a mall (Valley View for those from Dallas). Phones are expensive in India especially Apple.

Example: Apple 5 costs close to Rs 51000 while a Samsung S5 costs Rs 44000 (2014 prices)

7 comments:

  1. Thank you.
    you have posted the most detailed information.

    ReplyDelete
  2. Hi Arvind, did you consider buying devices at 220-electronics.com ? We are planning to move by the end of this year and I came across this seller quoted on multiple R2I posts.

    ReplyDelete
  3. Arvind, thanks for the information. I have just returned from US and got a Sony 32" tv. Even though it says 120 - 240 v I have not plugged it in. I saw you used a step down for your tv. Was your tv 110 volts only or did you use the step down as a precaution? Can you please respond to pramodi@gmail.com.

    ReplyDelete
  4. Hello, Arvind,

    Thank you for the detailed info. This totally helps! If I buy the Step Down transformer, I understand how it will regulate the power supply. But, how about the pins? Do I need to buy a separate unit for my PS3's American Style pins to fit into? And then, plug that unit to the step down? By pins, I mean the end points of the power adapters that go into the wall. Thank you!

    ReplyDelete
  5. Hello Arvind, thank you for a great blog with super detail into what worked for you and what did not. I cannot thank you enough, used your site for my own transition and it worked like a charm. Just want to comment on the step down transformers, for future R2I's do not purchase these in US as they are way more expensive than in India. I went to a local electronics stores in my home town and found them to way cheaper, of course quality is not on par.

    Good luck to you Arvind, hope you are having a great time in India.

    ReplyDelete
  6. Hello Arvind,

    Thank you for such a detailed blog :-) You are making it so easy for all of us that are planning on moving back home! I do have a few quick questions:

    1. I hear even decent quality bed/mattresses are expensive. So, we are considering bringing bed/mattress from US. Your thoughts?
    2. Did you bring any sort of Power/Hand tools from the US? If/If not, can you pls share your thoughts? I am a semi-DIY kind of guy for several home-related repairs & have accumulated some tools/power tools. They are somewhat heavy-duty & probably need a heavier step-down transformer. Not sure if it's worth it, hence the question.
    3. Did you bring anything from the US that used gasoline & runs OK in India using Petrol? If so, what? I am considering bringing my Power Washer, hence the question.

    Thank you in advance :-)

    ReplyDelete
  7. Nice Blog Thanks for sharing this post with a lot of useful information. I would like to get updates from you. Keep blogging
    Logistics Service Provider Bangalore | Custom Clearance Bangalore | Customs Clearance Agents in Bangalore

    ReplyDelete